Wednesday, February 21, 2007

Sebulan Bloggers United

LUBOK MELAYU said...

Datuk Ron, Terimakasih kerana menyiarkan sajak lesu yang saya tinggalkan sebagai komen untuk posting Datuk. Ia suatu penghormatan dan dorongan bagi diri saya.

Tuesday, February 20, 2007

Mari Kita Ke sana
(Untuk Bloggers Malaysia)

Jom! Moh!
Mari kita ke sana
Bangkit bersama rebah sekali
Namun berundur takkan terjadi

Kita bukan wira
Kita bukan petualang
Blogger hanya mencari kebenaran.

Jom! Moh!
Jangan biarkan mereka
mempermainkan kita
Asak hingga retak
Pasak sampai lolos
Pijak biar lunyai
Alang-alang selok pekasam
biar sampai kepangkal lengan

Lubok Melayu
20 Februari 2007
posted by KUDA KEPANG at 6:28 PM

14 comments:

Mr. Right said...

Mampukah kita?

NURAINA A SAMAD said...

ayoh, kita ke sana...

Alia's epistles said...

Dear Lubok Melayu,

PLS PEOPLE BEFORE YOU REPLY, PLS READ TRY TO READ THE INTENTION OF THE MESSEAGE BEFORE SHOOTING THE MESSENGER


To me, this issue really questions Sheih integrity..but then again maybe we shouldnt be to suprise. After all as the saying goes, the company we keep is a reflection of who we are. Everyone knows that Sheih gives special treatment to Monsterball on his blog.In fact Sheih even calls him a "father figure".This to me partly explains why Monsterball is so brazen in his rudeness.

BUT WHAT I CANT EXCEPT AS A MALAYSIAN IS HIS ATTACKS ON the blogger known as "A VOICE" regarding voices gout sickness in the latter blog posting titled " Pain: Gout Explained"...Additionally he goes on a rampage in his attack of the blogger known as BIG DOG. Read Monsterball' attack on in BIGDOG's blog here;

Read it here in BIG DOG



Read it here in VOICE


His vilification of BIG DOG includes inter alia, saying that Big Dog should have sex with Monty's pet dog.Of course, Big Dogs religion is not spared. The rest, I think is too rude to rewrite here.

Anyway, if you read his comments on both he does speak alot on behalf of Sheih. From u get a feeling, he is brazen enough to do so partly because of Sheih special treatment of him. In fact, when somebody questions his behaviour, Monsterball in not so many ways question the person right to do by saying he( Monsterball) is 'the front liner" .

To me, if Monsterball's behaviour is unacceptable, then so is Sheih blind endorsement of it.To me, Sheih cannot be totally exculpated.

Don't think any decent and sane Malaysian should tolerate it.

Go ahead. Read for yourself.

Bergen said...

Sir, this comment was posted in my blog by Mr Micheal Chick. It's about Melayu.


It's been interesting to read such free-flowing comments on an all "Malaysian" free for all. While we are on the subject, how many of you have read the book entitled "Contesting Malayness"? Written by a Professor of National University of Singapore. Cost S$32 (about). It reflects the Anthropologists views that there is no such race as the "Malays" to begin with. If we follow the original migration of the Southern Chinese of 6,000yrs ago, they moved into Taiwan, (now the Alisan), then into the Phillipines (now the Aeta) and moved into Borneo (4,500yrs ago) (Dayak). They also split into Sulawesi and progressed into Jawa, and Sumatera. The final migration was to the Malayan Peninsular 3,000yrs ago. A sub-group from Borneo also moved to Champa in Vietnam at 4,500yrs ago.


Interestingly, the Champa deviant group moved back to present day Kelantan. There are also traces of the Dong Song and HoaBinh migration from Vietnam and Cambodia. To confuse the issue, there was also the Southern Thai migration, from what we know as Pattani today. (see also "Early Kingdoms of the Indonesian Archipelago and the Malay Peninsular")

Of course, we also have the Minangkabau's which come from the descendants of Alexander the Great and a West Indian Princess. (Sejarah Melayu page 1-3)


So the million Dollar Question... Is there really a race called the "Malays"? All anthropologists DO NOT SEEM TO THINK SO.


Neither do the "Malays" who live on the West Coast of Johor. They'd rather be called Javanese. What about the west coast Kedah inhabitants who prefer to be known as "Achenese"? or the Ibans who simply want to be known as IBANS. Try calling a Kelabit a "Malay" and see what response you get... you’ll be so glad that their Head-Hunting days are over.

In an article in the Star, dated: Dec 3rd 2006

available for on-line viewing at:
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2006/12/3/focus/16212814&sec=focus

An excerp is reproduced here below:

"The Malays – taken as an aggregation of people of different ethnic backgrounds but who speak the same language or family of languages and share common cultural and traditional ties – are essentially a new race, compared to the Chinese, Indians and the Arabs with their long histories of quests and conquests.

The Malay nation, therefore, covers people of various ethnic stock, including Javanese, Bugis, Bawean, Achehnese, Thai, orang asli, the indigenous people of Sabah and Sarawak and descendants of Indian Muslims who had married local women.

Beneath these variations, however, there is a common steely core that is bent on changing the Malay persona from its perceived lethargic character to one that is brave, bold and ready to take on the world. "


The definition of “Malay” is therefore simply a collection of people's who speak a similar type language. With what is meant by a similar type language does not mean that the words are similar. Linguists call this the "Lego-type" language, where words are added on to the root word to make meaning and give tenses and such. Somehow, the Indonesians disagree with this classification and insist on being called "Indonesians" even though the majority of "Malays" have their roots in parts of Indonesia? They refuse to be called "Malay"…. Anyhow you may define it.

The writer failed to identify (probably didn't know), that the "Malay" definition also includes, the Champa, Dong Song, HoabinHian, The Taiwanese Alisan and the Philippino Aetas. He also did not identify that the "Orang Asli" are (for lack of a better term) ex-Africans. If you try to call any one of our East Malaysian brothers an "Orang Asli", they WILL BEAT YOU UP! I had to repeat this because almost all West Malaysians make the same mistake when we cross the South China Sea. Worse, somehow, they feel even more insulted when you call them “Malay”. Somehow, “kurang ajar” is uttered below their breath as if “Malay” was a really bad word for them. I’m still trying to figure this one out.

Watch “Malays in Africa”; a Museum Negara produced DVD. Also, the “Champa Malays” by the same.

With this classification, they MUST also include the Phillipinos, the Papua New Guineans, the Australian Aboroginies, as well as the Polynesian Aboroginies. These are of the Australo Melanesians who migrated out of Africa 60,000yrs ago.

Getting interesting? Read on...

"Malay" should also include the Taiwanese singer "Ah Mei" who is Alisan as her tribe are the anscestors of the "Malays". And finally, you will need to define the Southern Chinese (Southern Province) as Malay also, since they are from the same stock 6,000yrs ago.

Try calling the Bugis a "Malay". Interestingly, the Bugis, who predominantly live on Sulawesi are not even Indonesians. Neither do they fall into the same group as the migrating Southern Chinese of 6,000yrs ago nor the Australo Melanesian group from Africa.

Ready for this?

The Bugis are the cross-breed between the Chinese and the Arabs. (FYI, a runaway Ming Dynasty official whom Cheng Ho was sent to hunt down) Interestingly, the Bugis were career Pirates in the Johor-Riau Island areas. Now the nephew of Daeng Kemboja was appointed the First Sultan of Selangor. That makes the entire Selangor Sultanate part Arab, part Chinese! Try talking to the Bugis Museum curator near Kukup in Johor. Kukup is located near the most south-western tip of Johor. (Due south of Pontian Kechil)

Let's not even get into the Hang Tuah, Hang Jebat, Hang Kasturi, Hang Lekiu, and Hang Lekir, who shared the same family last name as the other super famous "Hang" family member... Hang Li Poh. And who was she? the princess of a Ming Dynasty Emperor who was sent to marry the Sultan of Malacca. Won't that make the entire Malacca Sultanate downline "Baba" ? Since the older son of the collapsed Malaccan Sultanate got killed in Johor, (the current Sultanate is the downline of the then, Bendahara) the only other son became the Sultan of Perak. Do we see any Chinese-ness in Raja Azlan? Is he the descendant of Hang Li Poh?

Next question. If the Baba’s are part Malay, why have they been marginalized by NOT BEING BUMIPUTERA? Which part of “Malay” are they not? Whatever the answer, why then are the Portugese of Malacca BUMIPUTERA? Did they not come 100yrs AFTER the arrival of the first Baba’s? Parameswara founded Malacca in 1411. The Portugese came in 1511, and the Dutch in the 1600’s. Strangely, the Baba’s were in fact once classified a Bumiputera, but a decided that they were strangely “declassified” in the 1960’s. WHY?

The Sultan of Kelantan had similar roots to the Pattani Kingdom making him of Thai origin. And what is this "coffee table book" by the Sultan of Perlis claiming to be the direct descendant of the prophet Muhammed? Somehow we see Prof Khoo Khay Khim’s signature name on the book. I’ll pay good money to own a copy of it myself. Anyone has a spare?

So, how many of you have met with orang Asli’s? the more northern you go, the more African they look. Why are they called Negrito’s? It is a Spanish word, from which directly transalates “mini Negros”. The more southern you go, the more “Indonesian” they look. And the ones who live at Cameron Highlands kinda look 50-50. You can see the Batek at Taman Negara, who really look like Eddie Murphy to a certain degree. Or the Negritos who live at the Thai border near Temenggor Lake (north Perak). The Mah Meri in Carrie Island look almost like the Jakuns in Endau Rompin. Half African, half Indonesian.

By definition, (this is super eye-opening) there was a Hindu Malay Empire in Kedah. Yes, I said right… The Malays were Hindu. It was, by the old name Langkasuka. Today known as Lembah Bujang. This Hindu Malay Empire was 2,000yrs old. Pre-dating Borrobudor AND Angkor Watt. Who came about around 500-600yrs later. Lembah Bujang was THE mighty trading empire, and its biggest influence was by the Indians who were here to help start it. By definition, this should make the Indians BUMIPUTERAS too since they were here 2,000yrs ago! Why are they marginalized?

Of the 3 books listed, "Contesting Malayness" (about S$32 for soft cover) is "banned” in Malaysia; you will need to "smuggle" it into Malaysia; for very obvious reasons.... :( or read it in Singapore if you don’t feel like breaking the law.

The other, "Kingdoms of the Indonesian Archipelago, and the Malay Peninsular" (about RM84) are openly sold at all leading bookshops; Kinokuniya, MPH, Borders, Popular, Times, etc. You should be able to find a fair bit of what I’ve been quoting in this book too, but mind you, it is very heavy reading material, and you will struggle through the initial 200+ pages. It is extremely technical in nature. Maybe that’s why it wasn’t banned (yet)…coz our authorities couldn’t make head or tail of it? (FYI, if I wasn’t doing research for my film, I wouldn’t have read it in its entirety)

While the "Sejarah Melayu" (about RM 35) is available at the University Malaya bookshop. I have both the English and Royal Malay version published by MBRAS.

Incidentally, the Professor (Author) was invited to speak on this very subject about 2 yrs ago, in KL, invited by the MBRAS. You can imagine the "chaos" this seminar created...... :(

There were actually many sources for these findings. Any older Philippino Museum Journal also carries these migration stories. This migration is also on display at the Philippines National Museum in Luzon. However, they end with the Aeta, and only briefly mention that the migration continued to Indonesia and Malaysia, but fully acknowledge that all Philippinos came from Taiwan. And before Taiwan, China. There is another book (part of a series) called the "Archipelago Series" endorsed by Tun Mahatir and Marina Mohammad, which states the very same thing right at the introduction on page one. “… that the Malays migrated out of Southern China some 6,000yrs ago…”. I believe it is called the “Pre-History of Malaysia” Hard Cover, about RM99 found in (mostly) MPH. They also carry “Pre-History of Indonesia” by the same authors for the same price.

It is most interesting to note that our Museum officials invented brand new unheard-of terms such as "Proto-Malay" and "Deutero-Malay", to replace the accepted Scientific Term, Australo-Melanesians (African descent) and Austronesians (Chinese Descent, or Mongoloid to be precise) in keeping in line with creating this new “Malay” term.. They also created the new term called the Melayu-Polynesian. (Which Melayu exists in the Polynesian Islands?) Maybe they were just trying to be “Patriotic” and “Nationalistic”… who knows…? After all, we also invented the term, “Malaysian Time”. While the rest of the world calls it “Tardy” and “Late”. It’s quite an embarrassment actually…. Singaporeans crossing the border are asked to set their watches back by about 100yrs, to adjust to “Malaysian Time”…

In a nutshell, the British Colonial Masters, who, for lack of a better description, needed a “blanket” category for ease of classification, used the term “Malay”.

The only other logical explanation, which I have heard, was that “Malaya” came as a derivative of “Himalaya”, where at Langkasuka, or Lembah Bujang today was where the Indians were describing the locals as “Malai” which means “Hill People” in Tamil. This made perfect sense as the focal point at that time was at Gunung Jerai, and the entire Peninsular had a “Mountain Range” “Banjaran Titiwangsa”, as we call it.

The Mandarin and Cantonese accurately maintain the accurate pronunciation of “Malai Ren” and “Malai Yun” respectively till this very day. Where “ren” and “yun” both mean “peoples”.

Interestingly, “Kadar” and “Kidara”, Hindi and Sanskrit words accurately describe “Kedah” of today. They both mean “fertile Land for Rice cultivation. Again, a name given by the Indians 2,000yrs ago during the “Golden Hindu Era” for a duration of 1,500yrs.

It was during the “Golden Hindu Era” that the new term which the Hindu Malay leaders also adopted the titles, “Sultan” and “Raja”. The Malay Royalty were Hindu at that time, as all of Southeast Asia was under strong Indian influence, including Borrobudor, and Angkor Watt. Bali today still practices devout Hindu Beliefs. The snake amulet worn by the Sultans of today, The Royal Dias, and even the “Pelamin” for weddings are tell-tale signs of these strong Indian influences. So, it was NOT Parameswara who was the first Sultan in Malaya. Sultanage existed approximately 1,500years before he set foot on the Peninsular during the "Golden Hindu Era" of Malaysia. And they were all Hindu.

“PreHistory of Malaysia” also talks about the “Lost Kingdom” of the “Chi-Tu” where the local Malay Kingdom were Buddhists. The rest of the “Malays” were Animistic Pagans.

But you may say, "Sejarah Melayu" calls it "Melayu"? Yes, it does. Read it again; is it trying to describe the 200-odd population hamlet near Palembang by the name "Melayu"?(Google Earth will show this village).

By that same definition, then, the Achehnese should be considered a “race”. So should the Bugis and the Bataks, to be fair. Orang Acheh, Orang Bugis, Orang Laut, Orang Melayu now mean the same… descriptions of ethnic tribes, at best. And since the “Malays” of today are not all descendants of the “Melayu” kampung in Jambi (if I remember correctly), the term Melayu has been wrongly termed. From day one. Maybe this is why the Johoreans still call themselves either Bugis, or Javanese until today. So do the Achehnese on the West coast of Kedah & Perlis and the Kelantanese insist that they came from Champa, Vietnam.

Morover, the fact that the first 3 pages claiming that "Melayu" comes from Alexander the Great and the West Indian Princess doesn't help. More importantly, it was written in 1623. By then, the Indians had been calling the locals “Malai” for 1,500 yrs already. So the name stuck….

And with the Sejarah Melayu (The Malay Annals in page 1-3) naming the grandson of Iskandar Zulkarnain, and the West Indian Princess forming the Minangkabau. Whenever a Malay is asked about it, he usually says it is "Karut" (bullshit), but all Malayan based historians insist on using Sejarah Melayu as THE main reference book for which "Malay" history is based upon. The only other books are “Misa Melayu”, "Hikayat Merong Mahawangsa", and “Hikayat Hang Tuah” which is of another long and sometimes “heated” discussion.

I find this strange.

I also find, that it is strange that the "Chitti's" (Indian+Malay) of Malacca are categorized as Bumiputera, while their Baba brothers are not. Why? Both existed during the Parameswara days. Which part of the “Malay” side of the Baba’s is not good enough for Bumiputera classification? Re-instate them. They used to be Bumiputera pre 1960’s anyway.

Instead of "Malay", I believe that "Maphilindo" (circa 1963) would have been the closest in accurately trying to describe the Malays. However, going by that definition, it should most accurately be "MaphilindoThaiChinDiaVietWanGreekCamfrica". And it is because of this; even our University Malaya Anthropology professors cannot look at you in the eye and truthfully say that the word "Malay" technically and accurately defines a race.

This is most unfortunate.

So, in a nutshell, the “Malays” (anthropologists will disagree with this “race” definition) are TRULY ASIA !!! For once the Tourism Ministry got it right….

We should stop calling this country “Tanah Melayu” instead call it, “Tanah Truly Asia”

You must understand now, why I was "tickled pink" when I found out that the Visit Malaysia slogan for 2007 was "Truly Asia". They are so correct... (even though they missed out Greece and Africa)

BTW, the name UMNO should be changed to UTANO the new official acronym for “United Truly Asia National Organization” . After all, they started out as a Bugis club in Johor anyway….

I told you all that I hate race classifications…. This is so depressing. Even more depressing is that the "malays" are not even a race; not since day one.


“Truly Asia Boleh”

2:25 AM

Anonymous said...

Discrimination in the private sector is everywhere. Even the Chinese businessman who is just starting gets discriminated against more established ones, unless he has a mentor to back him up.

As for career interviews, it is best to get a recommendation first. If I am using my own money, it is my right to choose whom I want - even to the extent of discrimination. Why would I want to hire someone that I cannot have lunch with, work with or converse with?

The BN government on the other hand is discriminating against the non-malays not with the malay money, but with probably the Chinese money as the latter pay the bulk of income tax collected in the country. That we are against.

Anonymous said...

My daughter scored straight As in her STPM exam in 2003, but she was only offered a place to pursue an ordinary science course in University Malaya instead of her choice pharmacy course. Other students (malay pig) with 2B 2C result had the opportunities to enter pharmacy course.

Eventually, my daughter decided to apply Singapore University, she was not only accepted to study a course of her choice, but was also offered a scholarship. Where is the justice?

Now I am thinking to emigrate to Australia for good.

Like many others say: losers will stay, go out winner.

Anonymous said...

As a post-independence-born Malaysian, I would like to offer my thoughts on Article 153 of the federal constitution which mentions the special position of the malays. Please note that there is no mention of the words 'special privileges' or 'special rights' in the constitution.

For too long, there has been a lack of understanding of what our forefathers had in mind when they included this clause in our much talked about social contract. To gain a better understanding, let us take a trip back in time to 1957 to actually visualise the scene then.

In a scenario where the immigrant Chinese and Indians were seeking citizenship rights in Malaysia, it is reasonable to presume that they would have had to understand and acknowledge the difficulties faced by the majority malays.

And this is where the meaning of the words 'special position' comes into focus. What did our forefathers mean by the special position of the malays? Did they mean that the malays would enjoy a higher status than all the other races? Did they mean that the malays would have special rights and privileges in perpetuity?

If this is what our forefathers had intended, then our constitution would have mentioned this specifically. However, the constitution or social contract does not say so.

What then, could the words 'special position' mean? It is reasonable to infer that our forefathers were concerned first by the fact that the malays were left behind economically despite being the indigenous majority in the country.

Secondly, they were concerned by the fact that, despite being immigrants, the Chinese and a small segment of the Indian community were relatively much better off.

The clause was therefore more so of an acknowledgment by the non-malays of the disadvantageous economic situation of the malays. The consideration given by the former to the latter when entering into the social contract for citizenship rights was agree to provide some measure of support for the malays to improve their economic standing.

If our forefathers had meant for these preferences to last in perpetuity, then there would not have been a request for a review in 15 years.

When I see the compulsory requirement for non-malay companies to hand over a certain portion of their equity to the malays for no input at all, I am tempted to ask: Is this what our forefathers had in mind? I can go on listing the abuses forever because there are plenty of them.

It is intriguing to hear senior BN and Umno leaders repeatedly asking the people to adhere to the social contract. What contract they are referring to? It cannot be the federal constitution. It is most probably some contract that they have entered into unilaterally without the agreement of the non-malays.

So it seems to be incorrect to firstly equate the words 'special position' with 'special rights and privileges'. Secondly, it also seems incorrect to suggest that the malays have special rights and privileges in perpetuity and therefore, that they have a higher status than everyone else.

The non-malays only agreed to allow them preferences over the others for a finite period of time. It has now been almost 50 years since independent but has such a meaningful review of those preferences taken place at all? Absolutely not.

In fact what has happened is that successive BN governments, dominated by Umno, and especially after the 1969 tragedy, have taken the liberty to very liberally interpret Article 153. This has led to the wholesale abuse of the consideration provided by the non-malays in 1957 for their citizenship rights.

It seems to me that the real social contract of 1957 was torn up long ago by the BN government with the way in which the NEP was implemented from the 1970s onwards.

To me, the real social contract of 1957 has long been dead. I hope the day will come when the people of Malaysia in the true independent spirit will make it live again.

Then perhaps, we would not have to spend hundreds of millions ringgit on nonsensical projects like the National Service to inculcate unity amongst the races.

Anonymous said...

Malaysia is the only country in the world where the constitution itself (no less) says that a particular race has to belong a particular religion. No other country follows this ruling. Not even Arabia (birthplace of Islam) or Indonesia (largest Muslim population).

Anonymous said...

It is better that you leave Malaysia. This country is full of crap. Everything is crap here. There is racism and lots of red tape bureaucracy. Malaysia don't practise meritocracy.

If a malay is not even capable in comparison with a Chinese or Indian, he will still get all the goodies and left the shit to the other races. I advise the government not to help the stupid malays but to give equal rights to everyone and also judge a person based on his merits, and not his background or race.

If the government continues to help those incapable malays and not cutting those red tapes, I think Malaysia will not meet its 2020 vision. Also my advise to those malays: To the Hell with you!!!

There has been a survey done to investigate whether Chinese, Indians and Malays are hardworking. They found out that malays are the ones to be lazy. Lazier than Chinese and Indians. They do not have the motivation to strive harder.

Most of Malaysia's success come from the hard work of other races while the malays just reaped the fruits that the Chinese and Indians sowed. The Malaysia government know about this fact and that is how they implemented to protect those malays from lagging behind the other races.

If you agreed with what I had said, you know that this is making sense. However if you disagree on my views, here is 2 possibilities:

(1) you are a malay that is receiving help from the government and hence you don't make any contribution to the society. (2) you are a corrupted, biased person that is easily influenced, just like our police force. Think about it.

Anonymous said...

It seems to me you malay are one of the reasons - this country is in suck shambles. Your lame argument only succeeds in cementing Malaysia third world mentality. This country does not belong to any one race as much as you feel it does. Independence was fought and won by everyone irrespective of color or creed.

You are not even bothering to attempt to make a point. Your answer to every dumbfuck in this country would be: "Ah, this is Malaysia, eh. What you expect?"

And now to bring myself to your depths to argue your point with you: You are a dumb ass. If people listened you - would have doomed this country to another 50 years of third world attitude and stupidity.

Firstly, thank you so much for allowing us to live and flourish in your wonderful country. I got a better suggestion……….why don't you get the suck out of Malaysia, go try living and working in Singapore where malays are the minority, and see how far you get. It will probably be the same job as you'd be able to get here……….labour.

Bottom line is - the Malaysia economy needs the non-malay races to progress……….malays need us to give them jobs - you need us to provide you with a paycheck and give you a sense of purpose. At the same time here, you need the government's help to protect you from us.

Run scared my friend, because we don't need any subsidies - we are perfectly capable of showing up to work on time.

Yup! At the end of the day, laws are man-made, not heavenly-made. Who made them? As you said it, by the people with power, the people we voted and trusted. Yet, those people might not be voted by us but by the majority in the whole population.

So, is it fair in the end? But who ever said that life is fair? There will always be people who are happy and those who aren't. Even in paradise, not everybody is happy because there is also unfairness. Many people also failed to notice that in achieving the fairness they pursue, they forced others to sacrifice the fairness they had.

There you have it. The law is not inherently flawless in its quest for justness, fairness, equality, autonomy, etc. It was created by people in power in a certain society, and change will only come through their or their predecessors actions. Whether public opinion can sway the actions of those in power will have to be seen in due time.

In short, the constitution the leaders agreed upon ages and ages ago, is the root of these seeming 'unfairness'. The thing that keeps us safe, prosperous and comfortable is also the one causing these little stories and the other stories that glare us in the face, but which we willfully turn a blind eye to.

Not all changes have to come though bloodshed. Some come when the time is right. Somewhere in the time ahead, there may be a group of leaders who are determined to change and eradicate this one failing of Malaysia.

Anonymous said...

It seems to me that BN is a fellowship of cheats and thieves, corrupted and unprincipled idiots, morons, sexists, tyrants who steal from public coffers.

God, with 90% BN members in parliament, who needs a parliament?

Anonymous said...

It disgusts me that even I, a 23 years old, can see the folly of his words.

It is obvious that his mind atrophied around the age of 10, and is only capable of repetition of the same fascist propaganda then he seems so capable of.

We, the minority do not give up as easily as you seem to feel we should. We will fight for our rights, as we are also citizens and members of Malaysia, and should in fact, be allowed to stand on level ground with the "bumis".

In fact, when literally translated, the princes of the earth are hardly the indigenous people of this land. How can you ask us to leave if we dislike the political situation in this country? Do you think you should leave if the Orang Asli wish it so?

It is absurd to think that we should leave if we dislike the situation. It is an infantile idea to begin with. If you do not like the way your father behaves, should you run away from home? Or should you try to get him to better his ways for the benefit of the while family?

It is pointless to debate that the "ingrates" should leave if we "want to". We do not want to, which is the whole basis of multitude of comments flooding this comment page in the first place. Is it really that hard to understand that we are not going to give up so easily?

We aren't like the majority of the race (i.e. you) who depend on crutches to help us through our lives. We have had to be independent and self-reliant from the very beginning, as the government is obviously not going to extend a helping hand to a non-malay very easily.

The reason the young aren't interested in getting involved is that we already suspect that there is hardly any hope for redemption for this country, especially with racial elitists in this country and government like the malay racist.

He defiles and insults forum based on the fact that he makes racist-based remarks, but he already shows his true hypocritical personality by his screen name.

It is embarrassing to realise that he as an obviously well-educated person, cannot even seem to understand the fact that differing points of view exist, even when concerning the same exact situation. It is studied in the first chapter of history, damn it.

Not one single person who commented on this malay pig, requested any of the things you believe that the minority want. We do not want a 90% quota in tertiary institutions for the non-minority, as that is a sidelining of the malays, the majority. We do not want the power to be shifted over to the minority, we want an equal share between all the races of Malaysia, which is what this country so proudly proclaims from its rooftops to its neighbours.

Do you honestly see an equal share of anything in this country anymore? Due to the sensitivities of certain races, many constructive ideas and views have been trusted aside merely to avoid certain "feelings" from being "perturb". Honestly, who do these people think they are?

Think before talking!

It is deeply saddening that people like you still exist in a civilised world. Do you seriously see this country being a potential competitor in the world market with mindsets that are so narrow-minded that a needle got barely slide through?

Many of the points in the above comments are practical and useful. But I doubt they will be undertaken in the near future, sadly. Does anyone seriously think differently? I doubt it.

Don't think that we, the minority are so enshrouded in naivety that we will run away due to malays ridiculous allegations against us. We want a better place to live, and obviously there are some among us who will in fact try to the utmost extent of their capabilities for such a dream to occur.

Among them will be Chinese, Indian and Malay, and also those from the other minorities. I for one, am looking forward to that day.

Anonymous said...

None of our five prime ministers are pure malays. All of them are called melayu ciplak or melayu celup.

If you don't believe, you can ask MGG Pillai. He can tell you each one's orgin. So, the Umno is never at any point of time leaded by pure malay. It is the truth.

Tunku - part Siamese;
Razak - Bugis;
Hussein Onn - part Turkish;
Mahathir - Mamak Keling;
Badawi - part Chinese.

Even many other top Umno leaders are not pure malays - Musa Hitam and Mohamed Rahmat - part Chinese.

In the opposition side - Wan Azizah is Chinese and PAS Youth chief Salahuddin Ayob is also part Chinese.

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I refer to the explanation for the 'reluctant apologies' by these two guys. They say they were defending the BN and its leader.

I say, Pak Lah, I am sure you have better guys to defend you than these two 'mouth leaking' political monkeys.

Now the whole world is laughing at us. How unfair just because I am a Malaysian.

Now, I hope no pea-brained ministers or political monkeys will become so sensitive to tell us not to even mention the word 'bocor' because it symbolises Malaysia.

If BN continues to bring in these type of 'bocor' people into their fold, it shows they don't have much talents in their team. I think this is the beginning of their end.

I would like to air my bit on our two buffoons if I may. It shows the class and the mentality of our elected representatives. The speaker managed to drop the issue like a hot potato after searching for a technicality.

The prime minister conveniently 'hears no evil, sees no evil'. The women's minister is happy with a 'closure'. So tell me what else is new. After all the fuss we are back to square one. A very unique Malaysia solution. God helps us all.

Dear Bung and Said, I will not address you by your titles as they are meant to be honorific titles.

Apparently, sometimes it takes an eye for an eye to realise the mistakes you clowns made. Let me ask you this and after my question, I would like to quickly apologise for it - would you be not be angry if someone posed the same question to your wives?

My question posed is in jest (as defended by Najib) and if it offends you, I would like to perhaps retract the question or quite possibly even apologise for it (without any pressure).

Our sleepy prime minister as usual will not take any actions against these clowns. What can you expect from a corrupt, racist, sexist and poor performing government. Folks, why do we still put up with these clowns?

Time to vote for DAP, PKR and PAS. We have a democracy in place but yet we have failed to exercise it.